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Weekly Garden Thread - December 31-January 6, 2023 [2022 Lessons Learned Edition]
December 31, 2022 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 12/31/2022 4:40:05 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a week Ping List. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


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"The most noteworthy thing about gardeners is that they are always optimistic, always enterprising, and never satisfied. They always look forward to doing something better than they have ever done before." ~ Vita Sackville-West, 1892 - 1962
1 posted on 12/31/2022 4:40:05 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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2 posted on 12/31/2022 4:41:47 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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3 posted on 12/31/2022 4:45:15 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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10 Awesome Life Lessons Learned in the Garden

I have found that over the years my garden has taught me many things – some cliche and other lessons are quite profound. Today while I was sitting on the patio staring out at one of the best late spring gardens I’ve ever had (think freaking hot summer everywhere else, thanks Phoenix), I came up with these 10 awesome life lessons learned in the garden.

Plan Ahead

Planning in life, planning in the garden – both pretty critical if you want to succeed. You have to know what your goals are so you make a plan to achieve them. In a garden you don’t just scatter seeds about willy nilly…not if you want to have any real results. You make some sort of plan out for where each seed will be planted, at what depth and how far apart…if we only gave our lives such detailed thought.

“The glory of gardening: hands in the dirt, head in the sun, heart with nature. To nurture a garden is to feed not just the body, but the soul.” ~ Alfred Austin

Beauty Isn’t Everything

Beauty is to be appreciated, sure; but some beautiful stuff is down right deadly. In life we must learn to appreciate beauty but know it isn’t everything. Ask a vegetable gardener about gorgeous butterflies and birds…they are a wonder to see but can wreak havoc in your garden.

Learn from Your Mistakes

If you haven’t made a mistake in your garden, you must not have been gardening long. Every garden will have pests, underwhelming harvests and death. But I know I’ve learned something from every mistake I’ve made. I have also learned to reach out to other gardeners (as we should reach for wisdom in life) and ask for help. I’m not saying I’ve never repeated a mistake but I’m getting better all the time.

A Good Foundation is Key

The Bible talks about building your house on a rock for a strong foundation. A garden’s foundation is good soil. Without a healthy foundation it won’t matter if you have organic, non-gmo seeds; you can’t throw those babies in sand and hope they’ll grow. In life, as in the garden, we need a strong foundation to grow and achieve our goals. Many of us didn’t get that growing up but we can bring in some healthy people, faith, books and such to “fertilize” our foundation until it is ready to support life.

You Reap What You Sow

Cliche of all cliches but it is a cliche because it rings true! If you sow good organic seeds in that healthy foundation you are going to grow amazingly healthy food to nourish you and your loved ones. In life we need to sow the sort of goodness we want to grow (love, respect, charity, goodwill)

Timing is Everything

Here in Phoenix I do not grow salad greens in the summer. Most of the country is planting and harvesting their salad greens in the summer months, but I grow them in the fall and winter. So if I based my garden (aka my life) on everyone else’s timing my garden and efforts would fail. Those tender greens would literally burn up in the scorching 110 (+) degrees and nothing but frustration would be grown. In the garden, as in life, we need to know the timing for our pursuits may not be the same as someone else’s

Variety is the Spice of Life

Diversity is key to a healthy and vibrant life. In the garden if we continue to plant only one or two things in the same space, year after year, it will cause disease and pests to become rampant. Variety in vegetables, fruits and herbs brings vibrant life to the garden by feeding in what the last crop took. Life gets boring in black and white – add some color and diversity to spice it up!

“I like gardening — it’s a place where I find myself
when I need to lose myself.” ~ Alice Sebold

Location, Location, Location

Location isn’t just important – it is everything. Some plants crave all day sun, while others need a little shade to grow properly. We need to be in the right location in life to grow and succeed just like our vegetable gardens. Sometimes you have to play around with the perfect place to put that raised bed; but once it is right you just know it.

Stop and Smell the Roses Dang It!

Sit on your porch, sip your coffee and admire the beautiful flowers of your zucchini, chives or even the artichokes you forgot to harvest. Sure, they might not smell as good as the roses but they should be admired for the stunning displays they make. Even a purple cabbage can be ornamental. Life is short, don’t be so busy that you miss the stunning awesomeness.

Crap Isn’t the End

Garbage will come and go. But if you know how to compost it, well crap can make some pretty awesome soil full of rich microbes to feed your garden. Life will hand you some crap; that’s a given. But handle your crap with grace and you never know what amazing thing will come out of it in time. Just know what to toss in your compost and what to shovel in the garbage while holding your breath. 😉

BONUS Lesson – Generosity

My garden has given me many lessons in sharing my abundance. There is nothing like sharing tomatoes, zucchinis, carrots or other garden deliciousness with a neighbor. Sure, I worked hard for that harvest but sharing it with someone who is blessed to enjoy it gives me a lot of joy.

Well there are my 10 awesome life lessons learned in the garden, and a bonus lesson. What has your garden taught you?

“The greatest fine art of the future will be the making of a comfortable living from a small piece of land.” ~ Abraham Lincoln

https://www.imperfectlyhappy.com/life-lessons-learned-in-the-garden/


4 posted on 12/31/2022 4:55:17 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Wow an early start. Happy New Year to all. No gardening news from the frozen west Michigan. We did have a warm up and snow melt, and I was happy to see my parsley patch is still green. It’s big and planted deep in the bed. It got a severe haircut just before the first freeze. No mulch, but it is still green. My experiment to see if it makes it to spring. Diana, thanks for another year of keeping these threads going.


5 posted on 12/31/2022 4:56:57 AM PST by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

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6 posted on 12/31/2022 5:19:14 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: MomwithHope

I still have a houseful of family, so I got up extra early today for breakfast prep. They’re all JUST waking up now - I hear movement upstairs!

They will be leaving this morning to make additional ‘visiting rounds’ and they leave tomorrow afternoon from Chicago. We had a family wedding last night, so that’s why they’ve been here since Wednesday. (Beau’s only Sister, her husband and two kids.) They had some delays getting here, but the weather has turned warm-ish again (40’s) and no snow predicted, so flying back to GA should be easy. The Nephew visiting is originally from Guatemala, so seeing snow was really fun for him. Beau also took him coyote hunting, so he’s had a lot to absorb on this trip. Mainly seeing how his ‘farmer relatives’ live. ;)

Our horse-farm neighbor gave us a lovely tour of her facility one afternoon. There were plenty of horses to pet and feed treats to, and five cattle dogs (Blue Healers) and lots of barn cats, so the kids really enjoyed that.


7 posted on 12/31/2022 5:20:42 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Happy New Year!


8 posted on 12/31/2022 5:46:57 AM PST by left that other site (Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Seed catalogs are arriving.

I would place seed orders early as they will run out again, even earlier this year.


9 posted on 12/31/2022 5:49:47 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"...The most noteworthy thing about gardeners is that they are
always optimistic, always enterprising, and never satisfied."

.

And IMPATIENT!!

But alas - I will WAIT until February or March to get seeds started
in seed trays and pots indoors along the south-facing windows.
(I have not built the new greenhouse yet.)

But I can daydream, remember, fantasize and PLAN can't I? (For now...)


10 posted on 12/31/2022 5:54:38 AM PST by GaltAdonis
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To: MomwithHope
"...the frozen west Michigan..."

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52° at 9AM in dense fog currently here.
Which sure beats last week's teens.

Stay Warm!
Spring Is Coming!

.

(NOTE: 'Here' is coastal central New Jersey.)

11 posted on 12/31/2022 6:08:07 AM PST by GaltAdonis
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To: tired&retired

Won’t need them for broccoli...some of my fall crop ‘went by’ and are LOADED with yellow blossoms and seed pods at the moment...I even had a honeybee checking them out yesterday (East TN). Might be raiding a seed company or two for oriental veggies (bok choy and such) and more sweet peppers to complement our hot sauces for 2023...will be processing peach sugar rush peppers and honey-fermented garlic into the woozies later today.


12 posted on 12/31/2022 6:14:57 AM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I just learned that basil does not like it below 40 degrees. I had a little mini forest and it all wilted in the chilly weather. Same goes for Mexican/Cuban oregano.


13 posted on 12/31/2022 6:48:06 AM PST by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: numberonepal
"... basil does not like it below 40 degrees ..."

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Neither does zucchini.

Early last spring I had a 'catastrophe' involving both.
(See my above post concerning: 'impatience'.)

14 posted on 12/31/2022 6:56:17 AM PST by GaltAdonis
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To: GaltAdonis

We had a warm up too, enough to melt some snow. But the cold returns. I guess the older I get the more ready I am for spring after the holidays have passed. These dark short days are depressing.


15 posted on 12/31/2022 7:29:48 AM PST by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Happy New Year to all! Looking at much needed rain in So Cal to start up in a few hours. My daughter says in No Cal they're being hit by wave after wave of atmospheric rivers. The rain is much needed so not bad news.

Meanwhile, I've been busy cutting back roses, this is the very last of them:

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My irises seem to be going crazy this season:

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And, my daughter's Bernadoodle puppy sporting her new raincoat:

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16 posted on 12/31/2022 7:29:51 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Location, Location, Location

Location isn’t just important – it is everything. Some plants crave all day sun, while others need a little shade to grow properly.

Took us two years to find a small property that is fairly level with a gentle SE facing slope and has good soil for the Ozarks. Most people would have come in with a bulldozer and taken every tree down on the flat ground but we couldn't afford that and I didn't want to start out with fully cleared land. I'm trying to keep enough trees for spots that will get afternoon summer shade.


New job is going good so I'll finally have enough money soon to build that high tunnel I've been talking about for a few years. Might build a lean-to greenhouse on the South wall here too. Will be able to buy more heat mats and grow lights. Daughter's old room will be converted to a grow room soon.

Seems to be a good place to work. They even paid people when they had to take 14 day quarantine for COVID, until people took advantage of it and seemed to get COVID every couple of months. I got 8 hours holiday pay on my last check even though I'm not technically eligible until after 90 days. They're closed down for today, Sunday and Monday which was supposed to be my three 12s so I'm betting they'll also pay me 8 hours holiday for New Year's to make up for the loss.

Weird shifts/hours. Three 12s in a row one week, two 12s, two days off and two more 12s the next week and I get 8 hours OT on those weeks. The smaller two checks are enough to cover bills and gas cost. I haven't had spare money in 22 years. Had three un-cashed paychecks in my wallet when I met the ex-wife.

With my hours, high tunnel will have to be automated with temp sensors and motorized venting and maybe soil moisture sensors with automated drip watering. I love tech and mechanical stuff to so I don't mind. I'll be buying a lot of compost to kick things off this year and then try to make as much of my own as I can to maintain. I see a small tractor with loader for turning compost in the future:) At 1120 miles every four weeks commute, I need a 30 mpg car first.

Baker Creek catalog came weeks ago and Harris Seeds a few days ago but I haven't looked at them yet. Still got a ton of seeds left over from last year.

Goats are still free ranging and looking really good because of it. Will be swapping the high tensile wire for the field fencing made for goats. Need to clear more trees so they have more to eat here. A few trees every week or two and we'll also have well seasoned firewood for next year as well.

Looking forward to giving away excess organically grown heirloom tomatoes and peppers at work this year.

17 posted on 12/31/2022 7:38:36 AM PST by Pollard ( >>> The Great Reset is already underway! <<<)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

This past year I used two experimental planting techniques. “Scatter and Till” and “Living Mulch”.

Scatter and Till was a rousing success. Everything grew, even the things I thought hadn’t sprouted.

Living Mulch had mixed results. Everything took longer to grow than normal. There were some crops that were so stunted I thought they hadn’t sprouted at all. At the end of the season when I was clearing stuff out, I found a lot of plants that were still in the seedling stages. This included all of the tomatoes, carrots, and basil. With some crops I chose the wrong plants to use as living mulch, and they ended up competing enough there wasn’t much of a crop. While this technique has potential, it still needs a LOT of work.

Next time I intend to plant in narrow bands so I can reach in without trampling things. As the main crops grow, I’ll remove the “mulch” plants nearest them so they get enough room without having to fight for it.

The legumes, which were all planted without a mulch crop, did outstandingly well. Including the chickpeas, which grew better than I’ve ever seen before!


18 posted on 12/31/2022 7:42:50 AM PST by Ellendra (A single lie on our side does more damage than a thousand lies on their side.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Horses?

Dogs?

Barn Cats?

Neighbor selling tours?

I’m in..!


19 posted on 12/31/2022 8:05:54 AM PST by dakine
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To: MomwithHope
Here, the morning fog is going to give way to rain this afternoon.
So they say.

And I agree with you - I am no longer a fan of winter.
Sledding, snow forts, snowball fights - Bah Humbug!

LOL!

HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR!
(Give someone a kiss for me!)


20 posted on 12/31/2022 8:18:51 AM PST by GaltAdonis
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